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officials, it is specifically a sarin gas attack. cnn cannot independently verify the authenticity of these videos. we're reporting on them because we have verified that the obama administration so showing them to members of congress as they hope to build a case to support military strikes against the assad regime. we're going to show you the videos right now, walking you through them very quickly. i want to first caution viewers that some of the images in these videos, in fact, all of the images in these videos are disturbing. but we're showing them to you because the nation is about to make a very momentous decision. we have seen a lot of video out there of alleged barbarity by syrian rebels. this is also part of the debate, what is being shown to members of the senate intelligence community. so here is video number 1 of the 13. it was shot, filmed on the date of the chemical weapons attack, the intelligence community says,
in jabar, which is outside damascus in syria. it focuses on a little boy maybe eight years old in a roomful of what appear to be dead and dieing sdie i ing sir yanz. we'll going to video number 2 now. it was shot in guta. if we can go to video 2, it shows a man having a chemical reaction. i'm still looking at -- there he is, in video 2, a man having a chemical reaction, it appears, vomiting. those who have seen the video in the intelligence community say these are symptoms consistent with an attack of a nerve agent, a chemical weapon. there's also a little girl who appears in this video in a yellow shirt. she is alive but also appears to be having a reaction. video number 3 of the 13 shown in the senate intelligence community was allegedly filmed in duma outside damascus. it starts off with some night
vision video. the intelligence community told the senators that for outdoor videos, they were able to compare the videos with overhead imagery and verify the terrain as legitimate. these are bodies of syrians. and video number 4 of the 13 is approximately 51 seconds. it shows close-ups of eyes of syrians who appear dead or dying from this chemical weapon attack that no one disputes happened. the question, of course, is who did it, who carried it out. these videos do not show, they do not prove who carried them out. you can hear syrians shouting that assad's dogs are responsible, but that, of course, is not proof that assad and his regime carried out these chemical weapons attacks. let's look at video 5 of the 13 that were shown to members of the senate intelligence committee on thursday. this one is approximately 32 seconds long.
it's from eastern guta. it's the close-up of a face of a boy who appears to be in the midst of a severe reaction. again, these images are difficult to watch. we are showing them to you because it is part of what senators and members of the house are being shown as they make their decision. video number 6 is approximately two minutes long, this boy in the red shirt appears to be having convulsions. he's maybe five years old. very upsetting image. the intelligence community has told senators that these have been verified as authentic. video number 7 is approximately 18 seconds long filmed in the damascus suburb of kafur botna. it shows a bearded man convulsing on the ground. this is a quick video clip. video number 8 shot outside madamea outside damascus. appears to show a man frothing
at the mouth. we are told these have been verified and they show symptoms of a chemical weapons attack. video 9 of 13 shown to the senate. members of the house will be shown these videos shortly. if not before monday, then on monday. video number 9 shows the close-up of a boy with an oxygen mask on his face. later in the video, the boy sets up. he appears to be struggling, but he is alive. the intelligence community is telling members of the house and senate that the this is some of the proof of a sarin gas attack on the suburbs of damascus, syria. they say by the assad regime. these videos do not prove that. these videos do not show who carried out this attack. separately, the intelligence community says, they have evidence as to that. we have not been presented with that, the public or members of the media. video number 9, we showed that
already, the boy with the oxygen mask. video number 10 from kafur botna as well. it shows a little boy maybe two years old as they try to give him oxygen and water. very upsetting. the theory, of course, is that damascus is an area that has been sympathetic and supportive to the rebels, and conventional rebel fighting by the assad regime was not sufficient, and therefore this theory goes, not proven, theory, goes there was a chemical weapon attack on the suburb. we know a chemical weapon attack occurred. we do not know who did it. video number 11 of the 13 is also very upsetting, perhaps the most upsetting of all 13. a to be the dead bodies of many syrians, dozens of syrians, many of them children, some elderly individuals as well. video number 12 of the 13 shown, two members of the senate select committee intelligence, was filmed in duma outside damascus, showing bodies wrapped up in
shrouds. in the muslim religion, bauuria take place within 25 hours of death. in eastern guta outside damascus, it's a man holding a little boy, a little boy who appears lifeless around other bodies. it is a very upsetting and disturbing image. obviously more evidence as to why the obama administration feels that chemical weapons are weapons beyond the pale and why military intervention is needed. whether or not military intervention, fredricka, is the appropriate response to such an attack is not a claim we are making right now. it is not a suggestion i am making at all. but we are showing these videos because, as upsetting as they are, it is part of the debate. it is part of what members of the house and senate will make their decision on.
whether or not this kind of barbarity, if there is evidence that assad was responsible, and i, as a member of the public and a member of the media, have not been presented with any evidence proving that assad carried this out, but if there is evidence, it is an open question whether military response is the appropriate one. but members of the house and senate are looking at videos like these and deciding whether or not this will play a role. i want to play some sound from senator diane feinstein. she is the chair of the senate select committee on intelligence. she requested this evidence, and she requested the hearing that was on thursday that we got these dvds from, and she explains why this video is compelling to her and why she thinks it will be compelling to other members of the house and senate. >> i had asked the cia to prepare a dvd which would have specific instances of evidence,
largely victims, and what we see means, what pinpointed eyes mean, what the convulsions mean, a number of aspects. and we received that this morning. and it's horrendous. so we are having that dvd multiplied, and we're going to get it out to every member of the senate and possibly members of the house so that they can, at their leisure, go through it. and also what each instance means in terms of making a determination that chemical agents were used. >> so very clearly, fredricka, that is senator diana feinstein of the senate intelligence committee saying that she believes this evidence, which puts an actual face and actual examples of convulsions. not just the word convulsion and an intelligence briefing report, but actual evidence of convulsions. she believes that will help make
members of congress decide that action needs to be taken against assad. we, of course, have seen video in recent days showing barbaric activities by some of the syrian rebels, making congress decide whether or not defeating assad is the correct course of action. all we're doing by showing this video is making sure the public is as informed as they can be. they can make their decisions as they want. polls overwhelmingly show people oppose military intervention in syria. we're just trying to supply everyone with the whole story as much as possible. >> the big question, how do you verify that chemical weapons were indeed used and who would be using them? let's bring in brian todd and david kay with us via skype from delaware. brian, let me begin with you. how does anyone go about verifying authenticating that,
indeed, chemical weapons were used here by the naked eye, looking at this kind of videotape? >> fredricka, that phrase you just used, by the naked eye, it's hard to discern the use of sarin by the naked eye. if you look at these videos, you'll see that sarin gas doesn't burn your skin. you don't get that kind of outward visual, but some of the other reactions from the victims, you do see some of the consistencies with what experts say is the use of sarin gas, the convulsions, twitching, difficulty with vision, foaming at the mouth. i talked to the expert of proliferation studies the other day, amy smithson. she says it's not the kind of things you see on these videos, the convulsion, the twitching at the mouth. your body will short-circuit. you will die within minutes. according to every expert we've spoken to, if you're exposed to enough sarin gas in a particular
attack, your nerves will shut down and then you suffocate. these images are at least consistent with what appear to be the use of sarin gas. and as for the verification, fredricka, it may appear to some that because the syrian government shelled that neighborhood of damascus in the days after the august 21st chemical attack, maybe a lot of the evidence might have been degraded or contaminated. experts tell us that's not necessarily so. they can test in krcrevices, th can test in walls, they can test in clothing left over and still get a very accurate sample. they run it through a gas chrom chromotographer that can confirm the use. that is undoubtedly what the u.n. inspectors are doing now. >> let's bring in former u.n. inspector david kay. david, we hear that explanation as to how inspectors might go about picking up the forensic
evidence and match it visually with what we're seeing in that videotape, but how do you determine who was responsible when one side said it was the rebels and the other side says it was sittthe syrian governmen? how do you make that determination? >> there are some characteristics used by sarins used by the syrians. the syrians have what is called a binary form of sarin, two innocuous liquids that when put together form sarin. the chemicals stabilize them and make them less likely to lose their potency, their lethality, quickly. the one the syrians have used is one initially developed by the soviet union. the means were passed to the syrians in the 1970s. you can detect that by analysis. it's highly unlikely that a group of terrorists, in fact, there is no known case that i know of, of a group of terrorists ever stumbling on
this formula because it's quite a clever hack to do it. i think that will show up in the analysis, and that clearly points its finger towards the syrians. there is other evidence you would like, there is other evidence the administration claims to have that is the actual track of the rockets and communication intercepts. i think those, too, ought to be put out, and they add power to this video which is powerful and revolting in and of itself. but as brian said, it does not answer the question of who did it. >> all right, david kay, jake tapper, brian todd, we'll check back with all of you. gentlemen, i appreciate it. we're going to talk about this very complex situation in syria. we'll talk with former u.n. ambassador about these tapes and what the president needs to do on tuesday when he addresses the american public. [ male announcer ] if she keeps serving up sneezes...
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he's on the phone with us from massachusetts. mr. ambassador, as you know, most polls are showing most americans are against striking syria militarily. now that audiences have seen this video that we've been showing the last hour and a half, that members of the senate intelligence committee have viewed, the intelligence community has authenticated it, how might this influence what the president needs to say to america on tuesday? >> well, it's probably the most important speech of his presidency, and so he's going to have to be very persuasive. the main question is going to be, why is this in the interests of the united states? and i think the president can make a persuasive case. but i think that video will sensitize the american people that this isn't just an intervention, this is a military strike to stop that kind of atrocity. it's going to help. it's mainly geared right now, if only the senate intelligence
committee saw it. he'll want to have house members see it. they start getting back early this coming week. they've been out in their districts pounding against the vote. but i think this is the time that members of congress are starting to make up their minds, they're keeping their powder dry, so this address is hugely important. it's got to be strong, it's got to be emotional, it's got to make a persuasive case. >> if i could interrupt, when you say it has to be a persuasive case, we're not just talking from a humanitarian standpoint, because i think most people universally will agree this is atrocious, this is disheartening to see something like this in this videotape, but the president needs to make the case that this is a case of national security. because that's what many americans, based on the polling, that's what so many lawmakers are saying is absent in this mission. >> that's right. why is it important to american
national security that -- what we don't want, where we have enormous interest in the middle east is iran and hezbollah and a threat to israel, a threat to stability in the region and the critically important part of the world. but he's got to make the case, too, that this is a violation of international norms. poison gas, this atrocity, cannot be tolerated. so the humanitarian side, as an effort to protect american national security, has to be made. i think the president is very good at these. he rises to the occasion when he makes these very important addresses, and this is the first time he's addressing the house. because the house members, they've been out -- i was a house member. you're out in your districts, just people are tired. they're fatigued about wars, about spending money, about ptsd and veterans coming back hurt. they want us to invest in the
economy and education and domestic issues. >> so i wonder, as a former ambassador member to the u.n., how confident are you that the u.s. would get involved even though russia and china vote no for any kind of military action? and do you think it's important that the u.n. get behind what the president is saying, what the evidence behind the white house is presenting? does he need not go alone? >> well, the problem, fredricka, is that the president and the administration has tried to get the u.n. involved, and the u.n., the security council, the russians have put the word out, we will veto any authorization of military action. plus there has been a u.n. envoy. like barbara hemi, i know this guy very good. he's tried to get sittthe syriao have a dialogue with each other, and it hasn't happened because assad feels he's got russia on his side, he's got iran on his
side, he's got hezbollah, he's got military superiority. that's why these military strikes are so important to get. the president has tried to go to the u.n. he did at the g-20 try to get an international coalition. he didn't get the support but putin wasn't helping. it's still undecided, but i think in the end the president wins this one. >> all right. former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. and former mexican governor, bill richardson. thank you very much for joining us from massachusetts on the phone today. we'll be right back with much more breaking news right here in the newsroom. [ male announcer ] nobody knows where or when
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chemical weapons, and these video images were viewed by the senate intelligence committee on thursday. and we understand now members of the house will likely be seeing them as well in the form of dvds, if not by watching today's broadcast today, and all this takes place as u.s. secretary of state john kerry travels abroad in europe trying to drum up more world support for the president's mission to strike militarily, and now we understand ahead of the president's planned address to the nation on tuesday, now president obama will be making himself available to cable and broadcast networks for individual interviews, that taking place on monday. so a lot to cover here all as it pertains to the crisis in syria. let's go to les. she's traveling with john kerry in paris. he's trying to get more support working with the eu.
is it working? are we getting more for the obama administration to try to get world support? >> john kerry is having a little more luck than president obama had yesterday at the g-20. the european union has been very skeptical, passing a statement for clear and strong support for international action. but fred, they want to see that u.n. inspectors' report on this chemical incident first. we have our politics in the united states. the europeans have their politics, and this is the kind of horse trading that's going on in capitals. they want a u.n. cover, if you will. so a lot of deals being made. secretary kerry, the united states doesn't really want to go through the u.n. they think russia has been blocking them. they call this russian intransidence and say the world needs to react to these attacks.
let's go to the secretary of state, john kerry. >> we haven't been able to respond because one nation keeps vetoing its ability, or two nations, to be able to act. so are we supposed to turn away because the u.n. itself has begun a tool of idealogy or of individual nations and not say that the principal we put in place and have fought for all these years is going to be thrown away? i don't think so. when you look at those videos of those children heaving for breath, unable to move, spasming. their lives stolen from them or their parents' lives stolen from them by gas in the middle of the night when they should have been sleeping comfortably at home in their beds, instead they're wiped out by a man who has no conscience about what he does to his own people, are we supposed to walk away from that? >> now, fred, secretary kerry's
aides isn't talking specifically about the video we've been showing today but video that's open source, that any american and european person can see, and that's the case that secretary kerry is making to the european public today. earlier he was in lithuania talking to those foreign ministers. tomorrow he'll be meeting with arab ministers saying the world must act. we all have a shared responsibility to make sure nothing like this happens again, fred. >> elise labbott joining us from paris. thank you so much. the president trying to make his case, not only on the world stage, but more specifically to the u.s. congress. we've been showing videotape that members of the senate intelligence committee have been viewing, had viewed on thursday, and we saw and heard from diane feinstein who said it was very graphic, it was very persuasive, and only if you had seen what i saw. let's turn now to chief congressional correspondent dana bash for more of the reaction of
this video that senators have seen, but apparently not all members of the house have. >> reporter: hi, fredricka. apparently at this point just the members of the senate intelligence committee have been shown this video. the plan, according to senator feinstein herself and some of her top aides who talked to our ted barrett about this on friday was to distribute it more widely to the senate, and that is certainly expected to happen early next week. but as you said, the whole reason she wanted this to be compiled and shown to the intelligence committee is quite obvious. we're playing them right now. they're absolutely not to be believed. it's hard to watch. and that's the point. most of this, if not all of this video, it's open source material, can be found on youtube. some of it likely has been on cnn. but the idea of compiling it all the way that they did, putting it together in one long video
and having it in a room and playing it with members of the senate at this point so far has just been the intelligence committee. but still, members of the senate who will determine whether or not this is enough of a factor to authorize military action for the president that he's seeking. it's powerful. >> so dana, what are lawmakers saying about how persuasive this video is? yes, it's atrocious, it's heartbreaking, but is this the stuff you need in order to justify a u.s. military strike? >> that's exactly the point i was just going to make. first i should say that it was shown in a class of -- even though it's, as they call it, open source material, it was shown in a classified setting. senator feinstein is the chairwoman. she felt comfortable talking about it broadly and publicly. other members did not. but i think now that it's out there, they will. we've got calls in to members of the committee. but the point that you're making
is a really, really important one, fredricka, and that is that, obviously, the moral argument that the administration is making that supporters on capitol hill are making to their colleagues who are on the fence is huge. but the problem is, and the reason why they're having such an uphill battle or heavy lift, as the president called it yesterday, is because the questions are still out there about the military strategy, and more broadly, the u.s. policy strategy towards syria. there are a lot of unanswered questions about, okay, let's say the u.s. acts on this. there is a military strike. what happens if the u.s. doesn't -- and if the strikes don't take out all the chemical weapons facilities? what if assad does what we're seeing again? then what? does the u.s. strike again? as senator susan collins said this week, that's called a war. and people are very reluctant to say yes to authorize this strike, not feeling comfortable
that the administration has a broader strategy and has sort of gamed out all the contingencies of what could happen. and that is where you have the reluctance from the lawmakers. never mind what they're hearing from people back home. >> and again, on monday will be more classified hearings. mi members of the obama administration will be pressing their case with certain members of congress? >> exactly. so far we've had, according to house democratic leadership adi talked to, apparently only about a third in the house and senate have been in these classified briefings. not seeing these videos, but in classified briefings with obama officials, listening to them make their case not just about the intelligence but about the military plans. everybody is going to come back, because again, they're still officially on summer recess. everybody is going to come back on monday, and there is -- at this point the schedule is to have the house and senate, everybody, have a very big, very
important classified briefing on monday night. so that is really -- as bill richardson was saying to you earlier, you know, that is going to be one of the key moments in addition, of course, to the next day when the president speaks to the nation. because like he said, he was a member of congress. he knows what it's like to get pounded. and fredricka, i cannot emphasize enough how unbelievable it has been to talk to members of congress, even those who represent districts that are hugely supportive of the president, that are very reluctant to do this. very reluctant to do this. and that's what members of congress are hearing. don't do it. don't do it. >> in large part because their constituents are saying we don't want to engage militarily anymore. dana bash, i appreciate that. the president will be speaking to the nation on tuesday. but before that, now the white house is saying the president is making himself available to cable and broadcast networks for individual interviews on monday,
and our own wolf blitzer will be sitting down with the president as he, the president, leads up to addressing the american people on tuesday to make his case about why the u.s. should strike militarily on syria. all right, now, let's also talk about the world stage, and based on international law, whether, indeed, the u.s. would be justified in striking syria militarily. we're going to be talking to international law expert coming up, david kay, right after this. ♪ turn around
♪ ♪ i finally found the right snack ♪ (announcer) answer the call of the grill with new friskies grillers, full of meaty tenders and crunchy bites. welcome back. the question is can the u.s. order a military strike against syria without breaking any military or domestic laws? let's bring in david kay, former law attorney and professor. good to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> at one point the president
said assad's actions quote, unquote, break international laws. international norms, i should say. you say the moral obscenity of it all really is not enough to justify military force. >> well, there are a couple of questions here, and i should definitely start by saying those videos indicate just why these kinds of weapons, whether they're chemical or other kinds of weapons like this, are banned. they are directed against civilians, they cause suffering that's unimaginable, that even in the context of war where killing is justified in some contacts, it's beyond the pale. so the president and his advisers would certainly be right in saying assad has crossed a line on international law, but that's different from saying that the united states can unilaterally or even with a coalition of other actors use force in this situation. in essence, we have a clash of
two different international laws. on the one hand, the violation of the chemical weapon ban, which is clearly a violation, and the other, you have the rules of use of force in which case force without the authorization of the united nations security council is only allowed in self-defense. >> so let's tackle the first one first. if it's a violation of the chemical weapons ban, then what is the penalty? what is supposed to be happening to the country that's using them? >> well, it's a really good question, and what you would want to see is a host of things happening, right? you would want to see sanctions imposed by the u.n. security council. you would want to see the u.n. security council referring the situation of syria to the international criminal court so that people would use these weapons could be held accountable as a matter of criminal law. there are other things like that that could be done, but it's clear also that the security
council is hamstrung in this situation as ambassador samantha powers said yesterday and as the president has said, there is nothing that can get out of the security council at this time, so unfortunately -- >> and there's nothing that can happen out of the u.n. simply because russia and china would vote no? >> well, that's unfortunately the case if we're talking about forcible measures, whether we're talking about sanctions, which are economic coercion, or we're talking about the use of military force. the security council is the body that is solely allowed to authorize that kind of measure. now, there are other measures through the u.n. general assembly that might be possible, but those haven't been tested, really, since the korean war, and they would probably cause as much discomfort among international lawyers and among others in the international community as going alone. and i think that we should really -- >> so what you're saying, then,
the u.s. would be breaking international law by going it alone, but it would not be breaking it if it had some company, aside from the u.n.? >> right. so it would be breaking international law if it goes without the u.n. security council, even if other states join in. i think what we're seeing right now, we ne we need to separate m the question of legality. what the administration is doing right now is trying to build a coalition in order to build legitimacy for the use of force in this situation. the videos present a very deep human and emotional case even if they don't prove who used the weapons. the efforts with the european union and in the g-20 demonstrate that the administration thinks, look, we're not going to get a legal case here. i think they know that. but at the very least, they want to have a case that is widely seen as legitimate so that when they do -- if they do break the law, and if congress authorizes
the president to use force, then they could go forward with that veneer of legitimacy even though it's not legal. >> so you're saying if the videos do promote a good case, then what would the u.s. need in which to convey that u.s. national security is at stake as a result? and this is not an issue of humanitarian efforts at all. or solely. >> right. this is complicated, right? it's complicating for the administration, of course, because this kind of -- or these kinds of videos play into the argument that there's a humanitarian need to use force here. that's what those videos are designed to do. they don't necessarily make the case on their own about the national security interests of the united states, and i think that's why you hear the president and his other senior advisers making the case that these kinds of weapons, if they
are used, they break a taboo, they tend to be seen, then, as usable in war, and over the long term, will be a harm to u.s. national security. that's a case that they can certainly make. it's not a legal case, though. it doesn't make using force under international law any more legal than it would be. >> all right, university of california professor david kay. thank you so much for your time. i appreciate it. >> thanks so much. and we'll have much more from the newsroom right after this. ♪ (woman) this place has got really good chocolate shakes. (growls) (man) that's a good look for you. (woman) that was fun. (man) yeah. (man) let me help you out with the.. (woman)...oh no, i got it. (man) you sure? (woman) just pop the trunk. (man vo) i may not know where the road will lead, but... i'm sure my subaru will get me there. (announcer) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.
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and in the last hour, madrid was eliminated in the first round of voting. let's go to cnn's shasta darlington. she's on the phone from buenos aires where the ioc is meeting. so shasta, tokyo is a favorite. and the last two final cities, istanbul is the other, but why not madrid? what happened? >> well, you know, fredricka, they actually gathered a bit of momentum at the end and people thought they might have a decent set-up, but they lacked pizazz, passion, if you will. they already had 80% of the venues built, they had the cheapest budget, less than $2 billion. but when it came down to the wire, they really didn't give members a real reason why they should win it. their argument for how they would do it cheaply was there, but why should they be the ones to host these games, and that's where they really didn't come ought ahead. as you said, tokyo is the favorite that the point. these things can change at the
last minute. there are lots of politicking going on behind closed doors, but tokyo came in with a very strong campaign. they really pitched themselves as the city that would host these modern games. also they tackled head on their biggest drawback, which was the fukushima disaster, with the prime minister himself coming out and saying he would personally be responsible to assure everyone that there was nothing to fear, that madrid had never been and would never be affected by the nuclear disaster, fredricka. >> all right, shasta darlington, thank you very much. we're all waiting with baited breath to find out which city will get it. we'll let you know when that happens. we're having our own olympic moment right now because we have two olympians in the house who teamed up with youth leader organizations hold ing a nationl day for kids. i say kids, because adults are kids, too, these days. they're here to help kick it all
off. good to see you all. >> thank you. >> before we talk about your favorite olympic pick city, what you're hoping for 2020, let's talk about today. you had big people acting like little people. why? what's going on? >> oh, my gosh, it was a day of fun, and it was a day of fun. it was just carefree and no worries in the world. they can be the advocate. >> this is part of the boys problem in america. it's so important for adults to remember how much it is to have fun. the boys and girls club mission, the things that they do, the places or safe place and then also it was another opportunity for the sponsors to come on
board because in order to run a boys and girls club it's expensive. we had other sponsors too but it was great to see everyone out there having fun. >> tug of war. i remember that. >> we lost. we lost to the kids. >> you're kidding. >> we were like we're ready and they just pulled us. >> this is so inspiring. a lot of fun. so often we forget how great it is to be a kid. you're getting great exercise. >> the critical issue is there's 15.1 million kid who is go home with no adult supervision. we're saying if you're out there and acting like a kid, you mom said don't try to go up soon. these adults can remember that and be the voice to tell the kids let's go into a boys and girls club, it's a safe haven.
you're making adult decisions where you're not ready to make those decisions. it was about having fun and we did. >> let's talk about olympics. now we're even thinking beyond 2016 to 2020. madrid out, what's your pick? >> i'm saying tokyo. that's my hope. >> it's a tough decision. i've been on both ends when chicago was trying to get 2016. a lot of times the front-runner you think is going to win but you never know because so many things happen behind closed doors that could change the vote. >> yeah. you're summer olympians but winter games and there's been so much about russia and its policy, anti-gay laws. do you have any thoughts about that? how disturbing or disenchanting is it that that's because part
of the equation when wooe're talking about a greatest peacetime event. >> one thing you respect different countries' laws or guidelines. injustice to one is injustice to all. it's so important that athletics bridge that gap and these young people train day in and day out. give them that opportunity to shine on that world seen. >> do you worry some athletes will be distracted by that? >> i think you've had to deal with adversity in your life that your keyed on just getting on there and doing what you trained for. you're not going to let a political issue take away from what you trained for for years. my hope is they dpget throughou and compete. >> to be an olympian it's about focus and you have to forget about everything else and have that tunnel vision.
if you're going to make it to that point and compete, you're not going to allow anything from derailing you? >> no. >> no. >> emphatically, no. you have to gold medals to prove it. thanks to both you have. >> thank you very having us. >> we'll have much more on the boys and girls clubs on our website. just go to cnn.com. we'll be right back. ?hña @8@x
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we're going get to the news but before i tell you anything else, i want you to listen to this warning. it involves pictures and video from syria that show very graphic images. it's of men, women and children that our sources tell us are suffering from a chemical weapons attack. it's sarin gas. you're about to see some graphic video so be prepeared for this. syrian people of all ages dead or dying or convulsing. these images were shown to senators two days ago and an diane fienstein called them horrendous and said they gave her no doubt that somebody deployed chemical weapons against civilians in syria. we're covering this game changing breaking news.
nick, i want to hear your reaction to this. he's the reason we got these videos. i want to talk about what we're seeing and how we know they are the real deal. >> cnn has obtained these 13 sh shocking videos which show what the intelligence community describes as victims of a sarin gas attack. the videos are quite disturbing. they were shown in a meeting. she's advocating for military intervention in syria. the images are shocking to watch. young children convulsing on the
floor, close upshots of people apparently dying. lines of what seems to be dead bodies shrouded in neat rows. these videos do not prove that the assad regime carried out these attacks. that's the claim the u.s. government is making based on other information that cnn has not verified. the clips were shown to the senate intelligence committee but not yet to members of the house of representatives. we could expect them to see those images in one of those classified briefings coming up. >> i want to get to nic robertson robertson in beirut. could this be the smoking gun that may change some minds around the world about syria? >> reporter: these videos are really hard to watch. i have seen some of them on youtube before. perhaps not a smoking gun so much as an emotional trigger
here. anyone who's watching this will find it very hard not to see the images or something must be done. it cannot be allowed to continue. i'll tell you something else as well that i've heard from a regional diplomatic source as well. we saw a lot of men and boys there. he told me a number of women also died in this same attack because when the people are brought into hospital we can see them lying there. they are wet and they've had most of their clothes taken off. it's part of the decontamination they go through. taking their clothes off, washing them with water before they put them in hospital. in these hospitals they didn't have the facilities to do that to woman. they didn't have separate women's areas so many women, this source told me, died because they couldn't be decon t decontaminated properly at the
hospital. anyone will feel a huge urge to act about what they've seen. a smoking gun, perhaps not because it doesn't point. it doesn't connect this directly to bashar al-assad. that's what the videos can't show us at the moment. >> as you've said before, some of these videos, many of them have been seen on youtube before. they've been out there on the internet. they put them all together to show to this group of senators and to others who may be voting on whether or not there should be some military action in syria. >> reporter: they've focused on things like the eyes. pupils. when a human is exposed to nerve gas like sarin it contracts the eyes. they focused on the medical
evidence that will give the strongest indication of what's happening here. the shrunking pupils the medical workers it pains to show this is really trying to point out the evidence of what's happening here. the vomiting, et cetera. this is all carefully put together to really show in a very clear and precise way exactly what's happening, don. >> all right. stand by. these are powerful pictures. who with john kerry has seen these videos as well?
>> reporter: we know they are showing more evidence that will show political support. secretary kerry referenced videos in general saying anybody that sees these children lying there, anybody with a conscious can't help but act. that's what the u.s. is hoping that the international community will take up its responsibility to prevent these heinous crimes from happening again. here in european capitals when secretary kerry was meeting with all them they want to see the u.n. inspectors report. the u.n. inspectors that were on the ground investigating this case. they want some kind of u.n. backing.
he's trying to make an emotional case to the people. they were talking in emotional terms about some of the videos we with we've been seeing online and how the world needs to take a look at itself and how the world wants to act in a socialized world. we'll continue to talk more about these pictures and drill in on the effects of sarin gas. gruesome and sometimes, most times deadly. next dr. sanjay gupta joins me live. he's breaking down the aftermath of a chemical weapons attack and we're minutes away from finding out the host city of the 2020 summer olympics game. a live report from the winning city. don't go anywhere. but she loved it so much... i told her it was homemade. everyone tells a little white lie now and then. but now she wants my recipe [ clears his throat ] [ softly ] she's right behind me isn't she?
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cnn has obtained 13 videos that the administration has told the senate intelligence committee that they depict a gruesome attack. dr. sanjay gupta is live in beir beirut, lebanon for us. these videos show people convulsing, shaking on the floor. what are these people experie e experienciexperienc experiencing? obvious pain. >> reporter: >> the way to think about this is sarin is known as a neurotoxic agent. it stimulates everything in the body to go haywire. frothing, it's difficult to look at but it's the lungs starting to produce too secretions. it's the muscles convulsing
without the ability to relax. what causes death is the d diaphragm that allows someone to take it broeaths doesn't let thm do it. it's odor less and taste less. it's something you don't know you've been basiced by until you start to develop symptoms. you don't even have to inhale this. just a small drop on your skin can absorb across your skin and cause problems. even people exposed later on by touching it, by touching clothing can become exposed. sglo i have to continue to reiterate to our viewers at home that the images are disturbing if you're watching at home, you may want to be careful especially if you have young children in the room. i spoke with a chemical weapons expert last week and very plainly he put it, he said it's
very similar to if you spray a pesticide on an insect. it's the same sort of affect that happens. you spray it and the insect starts to wither and convulse. it's the same sort of thing. >> it is. it was a sort of pesticide. a lot of these pesticides do have neurotoxic elements to it. sarin is so much more potent. you're absolutely right. it's the same sort of mechanism. this neurotoxicity. when people mean is it turns on the whole body. it turns on the muscles, secretions in the lungs and that's what causes death. >> let's talk about the aftermath of the sarin gas. is there a medicine that can reverse the effects of it?
>> there are medicines that can reverse the affects. there's a couple of different ones. one medicine is called atropine. trying to reverse some of the effects of the sarin. what doctors couwould do if the have this is to start giving the medicine and seeing if it's taking effect. what they are looking for to see if the secretions start to diminish from the lungs and if the convulsions decrease as well. this is a pretty commonly used medication. it's in just about every hospital in the world, but you have to have it present, available and ready to go if you suspect that someone has been exposed to sarin. there are other medicines that can help pu that's up with of the most common ones. >> we've been seeing the situation is so dire and people have been making these makeshift
masks to try to protect themselves. you say you don't have to breathe it in, it can be placed on your skin and you still feel the effects of it. >> i saw some of that video. it's sad to see because you fwet the sense that people are separate to try anything. it's not going to help. there are certain masks that if you're going to wear a mask should be much more effective. this is a military grade mask. you'd have to protect the other skin on your body to try to not get exposed to issarin. this is the mask that people would have. if you know there's been exposure, you best bet is to run. this is a heavy gas. get out of the particular
location. those some of the best pressures if there's been an exposure. these masks, it's kind of sad because it shows the desperation of the situation like this. >> have you been able to speak to anyone who has been affected by this particular attack, february member family members, friends, anyone as you've been traveling around? >> i've been in many of the area ons the bordered. you talk to people who are convinced they may have been exposed. it's hard to verify this wan i was with a man who was convinced his children were exposed to sarin and were able to dpet out in time. it's tough to verify after the fact. you can find sarin in the soils
but tougher to find it in the human body. if someone survive, it's likely they be do fine. there's so much angst about it. when you talk to people they say i think i was exposed but it's tough to prove the voracity of that. >> it's almost 11:20 p.m. in beirut where he is. he'll be back throughout the evening hours reporting live from lebanon. make sure you join dr. sanjay gupta. to find out how you can help the more than two million syrian refugees visit our impact your world page at cnn.com/impact. we're not going to go far away from this story. next, making your voices heard. taking to the streets here in
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very busy news day here. what you're looking at celebration because it's been announced where the 2020 summer olympics will be. on the left is the winning city. that's tokyo and they are celebrating. on the right you're looking at japan and that is -- that's the japan delegation where the international olympic committee made the announcement. lots of excitement and happiness.
istanbul was in the running. madrid was eliminated an hour ago. that's where the 2020 summer olympics will be held. more to come as we get more information on this and people are excited about winning the olympics. i want to get back to our breaking news story. syria and the pictures that you're going to see throughout the evening here on cnn very, very disturbing. very graphic. we just want to warn you here. we'll have to wait to see if these videos change public opinion but for now some americans are making it clear they don't want the u.s. involved in syria. in new york there were protests. protesters repeated the call to stay out of the war.
demonstrations included many syrian americans who worry about civilian injuries in any strike. >> we say no more. >> they say more war. >> we say no more. >> in washington people opposed to a military strike marched from the white house to the capitol claiming the u.s. has no business nmeddling in syria. the violence in syria has drawn global condemnation. tens of thousands prayed for piece. smaller events were held in places of worship around the world. on his twitter account he wrote all men and women of good will are bound by the task of pursuing peace. president barack obama is going to sit down with six u.s. networks on monday to talk about syria. our guy here at cnn will be wolf
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ago. the president announced that tokyo will host the summer 2020 olympics game. it's a huge win. they overcame competing bids by istanbul and madrid. let's go live to the winning city. lots of excitement there, paula. >> reporter: don, you know you would not believe it's a sunday morning. no one here is getting any sleep tonight. they are delighted that the games are returning to tokyo for the first time in 50 years. it was a favorite an it did not disappoint. et doesn't harm when your prime minister is willing to duck out of a jeep to help wave the flag. i think the prime minister's presence helped this bid enough.
you can hear the crowd here. a few die hard fans here for being here this morning. they had a strong bid. they have the infrastructure. they have financial security. they have political stability. the only thing they didn't have was fukushima. that was something that was held against them. the fact they do have those radiation spikes and toxic water leaks, but it wasn't enough to derail this bid. the games in 2020 will be coming here to tokyo. don. >> very interesting. lots of mass transportation to help the people get to and fro. last time tokyo hosted the games back in 1964. the game will be in tokyo in 2020. thank you so much for joining us. i'm don lemon in new york. at the top of the hour make sure you come back to us here.
the video of that sarin gas attack is showing members of congress to convince them air strikes against syria must happen. we're going go to cnn dr. sanjay gupta for a live report for you. i'm dr. sanjay gupta reporting all week from the syria lebanon border. joining me is my colleague brooke baldwin. >> you're next door to syria. i have a lot of questions for you as far as what you've seen in the last couple of days. let me just begin with what we have seen so far. we've seen the